@Politico I'm not justifing anything. I'm from a very mixed family. My father worked the farm sold to his family from a black slave owner. He had a 5th grade education. I was raised middle class because my father worked 3 job's and sold Avon so my mother could raise us kid's.
I don't see how slavery of the past effects people more then slavery of today, when 8000 thous. Childen in America go missing a year most are minorities, every 40 seconds a child goes missing.
We must get past I'M A VICTIM OS SLAVERY no your not I'm nobody alive today is expect the slaves today! Your only a victim if you believe you are.

@Politico you do understand that the damage of slavery was done by people doing unto eachother what was legal at the time, brothers unto sisters mothers unto children ect. The descendents today how are they paying did they get whipped starved overworked owed used abued raped? No the are free to live to make choices and the biggest chioce many need to make is stay a slave to the government. Or not. By excepting payment from the government your staying a victim a slave to the government a payment to be a loyal subject.

@Politico people are feeling the weight of their daily choices. Not slavery. Not unjust persecution.

@Politico On a quick emotional basis reparations sound like a fair idea. When looked at logically it is not workable. Money will not fix the problem. Billions of dollars have already been spent in welfare programs and affirmative action. Still lots of complaints. When Affirmative Action was declared the answer to the problem I asked my mother why Negros (correct term at the time) were given more rights than other people from the government. I was told that they were not as smart or capable as other people and needed the extra help. This confused me. There was a Negro girl in my math class who kicked my butt on grades. Less intelligent? Less capable? Nonsense. However after 40 years of being treated by their government as less intelligent and capable it is not surprising that many Black people now feel that they can do nothing without a government program to help them.

@Politico people are effected by their financing decisions. You can give someone any amount of money to start with and depending on how the choose to spend that money will pave the path of their own future. The faster they're taught that, the faster they start prospering financially.

And the legal system in the US is being manipulated by morons who don't know what the law was written for. To allow the living of our lives according to the social compact as it is outlined in our constitution. Thus why we have so many stupid courts. To interpret the parameter of those systems, rather than pushing useless rulings that do more harm and set a worse precident for not breaking the law in the first place.

@Politico what your not understanding is one enough will never be enough. Not by the people but by those calling for it. Because it's still a form of enslavement. And 2 what your missing is people today have never owned slaves so it's not the government paying it's the people all people even the black community paying themselves. 3 there is a hidden truth about slavery in this country that many don't know.
All slave ship's where owned by rich jews ( zionist) not Europeans. They say those who own the gold hold the power rule the world.
Read white corgo. The untold history of white slavery in America the Zionists enslaved everyone.
So to expect thise to pay for what was done by a few is unacceptable. Do i like the fact slavery is a part of American history no do i except it yes. These men women and children built this country and i owe them graduate thanks and respect ect. Not there descends as well I'm owed nothing for my being a decent of slavery.
The giving admittance into college because of minority standing does not help, as well as job placement it hurts because lack of education hurts no matter what. If you don't move up because you earn it you only hurt yourself and society it's dumbing down the population for a reason.
I am not book smart by any means, but i see what is going on

@SpaceWillie2000 you should find this interesting i think.
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@Politico i live in Detroit and if what your saying is true. Then I'm less liking to get hired. The a black person based on my race as well right? Because in my area im a minority so all management who would hire would so a "WHITE NAME" as you say and not hire me. Without looking at my experience or education?

@Politico you are avoiding fact that i have stated. Like white people have been enslaved as well. And that I'm a minority in my community does the white name apply to me? And more.
As far studies goes go if thay don't include all aspects of each individuals life thay are not based on facts. Foe example

1. hire date
2. day's taken off
3. holidays earned payed or not
4. raises per hire date
5. grievances for poor work ect. Leading to action taken
   And more so a study proves nothing except some are still willing to believe they are victims of the people around more then themselves keeping themselves down with the help of false narrative
   It's said that women get payed less. This also is not true. For the same reasons.

@Politico as far as the infomation i sent you i thought you would find it interesting to look into because it can be proven that Zionists control the federal reserve control the gold control the world as the Rothchilds have said. So i just thought you would find it reseachable and intresting is all

@Politico Not a single original thought in all that..

People learn how to handle money by watching people handle money. At home, their friends, their associates. Education gives you the numbers wisdom but experience and examples are what teach people the why. Look at AOC, with her economics degree, and she didn't know that there's a difference between revenue, and tax revenue. Numbers smart. Why stupid.

There's plenty of poor white folk too, suffering under the same kind of oppression by the same sources. Where's reparations for every trailer park in America? For every ghetto for that matter, no matter the color?

The rich aren't rich because they're stupid. They figure out the system, and count on nobody closing loopholes that can be used, by every citizen, to better their business.

@SpaceWillie2000 i am a poor American and i do with what i have. My husband hurt his back and i was in a car accident. We both suffer with many physical problems. But we ske in the best we can with the money we work for. I earn at home and he earns with his brother. And such is life for many some by no choice others by choice known or not.

@Gerri4321 I'll look in to it. Promise!

@Politico Your argument did seem emotional to me. Matter of interpretation I suspect. One fact is abundantly clear and that is the fact that the US has many millions of very successful dark skinned people. Most people have a handicap of some sort. (I am dyslexic) Most of us figure out a way around the handicap. The bottom line of the reparations argument is that forcing people who had nothing to do with slavery to pay money to other people who have actually never been enslaved is a pretty silly idea.

@Farmergramma i may come across emotional in my debating true. Well first I'm a lady and second we are know to be emotional for a reason . so if i come across that way it's a normal response i would think. I to have a disability ( epilepsy) it has never stopped me from being the thing's i wanted in life. But I'm a simple person and in being so I'm easily pleased.
The idea of reperations is a real (in my opinion) political ploy for a few resons. Long term votes, new voter's, and to keep people held hostage by the system, as well as dumbing down. So i guess your right this is emotional for me when generation's are at stake of loseing freedom they don't know is slipping away.

@Politico, you can't create something today which removes what occurred in the past. Taking down statues which depict southern civil war generals doesn't get rid of what happened in the past. Once you start going down that road of getting rid of everything that depicts life in the past, you ignore that it was history, whether you agree with it or not. What's next . . .burning books in the town square?

I think the UK is one of the most heinous offenders with their colonisation of so many countries. Portugal have been doing great things lately to give their people a voice and their ‘stance’ on drugs is highly successful.

@Speyedy Portugal was the premier player on the African slave trade.

@Buflineks was! The UK has never stopped invading colonising and slaughtering.

I thought the Arab slave trade was the very beginning of the slavery history; didn't they ship lots of Africans to many different countries? Or, have I got that wrong?

@Naomi they still do. But this is about U.S. reparations. The U.S. slave trade started with a Portuguese Slave ship at jamestown.

Ah, I see. Thanks.

@Speyedy BS about the British they where the first ones to outlaw slavery well before the Americans. Maybe read some unbiased history and check your facts first

@fisherman0707 they may have outlawed slavery but they transformed it into genocide of indigenous peoples instead. It’s what the elite do! They turn it into something we can’t fight every time so they always win. Doesn’t matter what you call it, it’s deadly for the rest. ?

@Speyedy You have gone full Libtard never go full Libtard. You know what quote that is from

I refuse to pay up, pleb. And in an entirely non-hypocritical jump, I also demand reparations for the short time that Rome was ruled by the Etruscan Kings.

Then, in turn, I will demand from you reparations for my 10 gens back grandfather who was a slave from Ireland brought to America.

But hey, the Americans should pay for that too...

Further, my 6 gens back grandfather and grandmother were whites running an underground railroad point as minister and wife of a church in southern Indiana (literally within view of KY) - so please to be explaining again how those white folks owe you when they already paid...

As a Scot who is related to a Scot who fought as an Officer under William Wallace at Sterling ... and other places ... and who, about six months later was also Drawn and Quartered and Who’s Head Graced the Wall in London ...

Do I get in that “reparations” line as well?
I mean ... I think I’ve still got echoes of his PTSD to this day ... !!!
LOL!!!

(no intent to make light of other people’s PTSD)

Fair.

And only those who were slave-holders pay.

The problem comes when they get their 20k and turn around, apply for citizenship, get denied, fly to Mexico and then just walk across the border. Bam, they're asylum seekers we've already paid 20k to.

Would be interesting to see if any take up that offer. Likely very few. Any that do, will likely find themselves the outcasts in their new found heaven. Along with being the focus of discrimination, rape, robbery, or wearing “short sleeves.”

Fascinating! And victimhood - I hate it, too. Thanks ever so much for sharing your personal story. X

Yes, I have said the same things to others--that reparations were paid with 40 acres and a mule, 600,000 dead, millions paid in antipoverty programs and affirmative action.

Reparations was paid 10 times over with plumbing. Look at the Projects, which are now considered racist, that was the implementation of thousands of years of civilisational innovation and knowledge from brickwork to electricity none of which they had access to in Africa.

All these things have allowed them to make fortunes exploring other avenues from Music to other pursuits.

If there not happy just deport them back. Quickest way to stop most of them playing the race card.

That's what I was originally asking...this talk is all for votes, right? Yes!

It ain’t self inflicted. It’s inflicted from above, from dodgy self serving govts living the high life while maintaining their whoring to big corporations owned by the elite.

Couldn't agree more.

Totally agree with you and if this is indeed a bandwagon white folks can get on, I want my reparations as well

I've wondered how the Dems plan to handle this specifically. Who owes money, and to whom? Is the government just going to pay out the reparations with our tax money? Who receives the payments? How do they prove that they are descendants of slaves? Is this just a boost for the DNA companies? Do mixed race Americans pay with their white DNA and receive with their black DNA? I like ReggieMars' comment below: Reparations are for chumps.